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RE: hyper key help

Not till September according to their schedule.  
Alex M

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Dengler(win8) [mailto:billkd2008@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:30 AM
To: tv.raman.tv@gmail.com; alex.midence@gmail.com
Cc: robdcraw@gmail.com; emacspeak@cs.vassar.edu
Subject: Re: hyper key help

So Gnome 3.10 is already out?

On 8/23/2013 10:28 AM, T. V. Raman wrote:
> "hacks to read pdf" go away when gnome3 supports tagged pdf --
> sure:-)
> the "hacks" you refer to   so lightly e.g. pdf2txt -- use the
> same underlying mechanisms and libraries that gnome3  uses for tagged 
> PDF  -- you wont getting anything more or anything less. Use what 
> works for you by all means --
>>>>>> "Alex" == Alex Midence <alex.midence@gmail.com> writes:
>      Alex> Honestly, I only run Emacs in the console. I don't run
>      Alex> it in X. I've never had much luck making it do what I
>      Alex> wanted in X. I have never heard of Stumpwm. Sounds like
>      Alex> a plain Jane window manager with nothing else in the
>      Alex> way of supporting desktop applications. Nice if you
>      Alex> have a minimalist philosophy, I suppose. I like too
>      Alex> many of the applications that come with Gnome to give
>      Alex> it up. Besides, they are introducing honest-to-God PDF
>      Alex> support with this upcoming version and actual tagged
>      Alex> pdf support in Gnome 3.12. The day of using hacks to
>      Alex> read a PDF in Linux are almost at an end for screen
>      Alex> reader users. Don't see how I could ever stop using it
>      Alex> now.
>      Alex>
>      Alex> Alex M
>      Alex>
>      Alex> -----Original Message----- From: T. V. Raman
>      Alex> [mailto:tv.raman.tv@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 23,
>      Alex> 2013 8:43 AM To: robdcraw@gmail.com Cc:
>      Alex> emacspeak@cs.vassar.edu Subject: hyper key help
>      Alex>
>      Alex> Sorry to hear about the gnome3 pains -- afraid I cant
>      Alex> help much -- I completely eliminated gnome and just run
>      Alex> stumpwm as a tiling window manager, with Emacs in one
>      Alex> window and Chrome/ChromeVox in the other.
>      >>>>>> "Robert" == Robert D Crawford <robdcraw@gmail.com>
>      >>>>>> writes:
>      Robert> Hello all, I am at a loss as to how to proceed and
>      Robert> I'm hoping someone can assist.
>      Robert>
>      Robert> I'm trying to give GNOME 3 a chance on my new
>      Robert> install. It makes use of the Super key, so I thought
>      Robert> I would assign hyper to be my "emacs" key. I've used
>      Robert> this .Xmodmap file:
>      Robert>
>      Robert> ! No Caps Lock clear lock keycode 66 = Hyper_L !
>      Robert> keysym Caps_Lock = Hyper_L clear mod3 add Mod3 =
>      Robert> Hyper_L
>      Robert>
>      Robert>
>      Robert> and the result, according to xmodmap is:
>      Robert>
>      Robert> rdc@e6410:~$ xmodmap xmodmap: up to 4 keys per
>      Robert> modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
>      Robert>
>      Robert> shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) lock Hyper_L
>      Robert> (0x42) control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x69)
>      Robert> mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x6c), Meta_L (0xcd) mod2
>      Robert> Num_Lock (0x4d) mod3 mod4 Super_L (0x85), Super_R
>      Robert> (0x86), Super_L (0xce), Hyper_L (0xcf) mod5
>      Robert> ISO_Level3_Shift (0x5c), Mode_switch (0xcb)
>      Robert>
>      Robert> rdc@e6410:~$
>      Robert>
>      Robert> but emacs still thinks it is a super key, giving me
>      Robert> the response "Cap x is bound to self-insert
>      Robert> character." The lock is gone, but nothing else. In
>      Robert> addition, why is the mod3 line blank? Any ideas?
>      Robert>
>      Robert> Concerning GNOME 3, I'm not terribly impressed. I
>      Robert> make use of the magnifier and the one baked into
>      Robert> gnome shell is shite. The movement is not smooth at
>      Robert> all and if I try to change the shortcut it only
>      Robert> rarely works. When I don't change the shortcut
>      Robert> sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I can't
>      Robert> seem to figure out in what instances it doesn't work,
>      Robert> so I can't really request help, but I might try. I
>      Robert> was a long-time user of compiz and the magnification
>      Robert> was infinitely smoother and more configurable. I
>      Robert> would have hoped that by the 5th release of gnome
>      Robert> shell it would have been at least comparable. Alas,
>      Robert> it is not so. My next step, I think, is to install
>      Robert> XFCE and compiz.
>      Robert>
>      Robert> Sorry for the rant, but thanks for listening.
>      Robert>
>      Robert> Best regards, rdc -- Robert D. Crawford
>      Robert> robdcraw@gmail.com
>      Robert>
>      Robert>
>      Alex>
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>      Alex>
>      Alex> -- Best Regards, --raman
>      Alex>
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